Curse

Marginal Propensity · May 28, 2005, 02:46 AM // 02:46

I have recently purchased Guild Wars and have enjoyed the gameplay by myself up to the level of 9. With the game being partially a MMO a new player such as myself should be able to ask questions about things which are not so common to the community around me and have people give some sort of helpfull response. I have played other MMOs in the past and in all of them the people around me were more than happy to help me out and answer my questions. With Guild Wars it is as though no one cares about anyone unless they are in their own guild. I can sit in a major town asking people simple questions without ever getting a response. Why?

Don't get me wrong this is a great game even though I have only played it for about a week now, but the community is making me want to quit already. The majority of the players appear to be selfish at first and offer no assistance what so ever. I could easily be wrong about this, but until I see otherwise I have no reason to believe in game players are willing to help other out.

Basically I want to get someone elses oppinion on this and find out if this is how it just is.

Burgio · May 28, 2005, 02:51 AM // 02:51

i feel the same way ive had it for bout three weeks now and i get no response from ppl except for a select few... ppl on here post useful stuuf that has helped me out so keep postin on here and readin these forums for help

Sphitzer · May 28, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11

I registered just to tell you that I agree with you in every respect. Whenever I find myself in Ascalon I always try my hardest to send messages to those who ask questions. I am sick of asking a question myself just to be bombarded with "WTS 30 GOLD PLATINUM ARMORED BOOTS +3 ARMOR", but I guess that is what you get with no monthly charges.

btw Hello to everyone in the community

Jab · May 28, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14

I guess I'm one of the exceptions, I do know alot of jerks , but I'm usually a nice guy. Problem is that I'm a soloer by nature so I'm usually in and out of most towns.

gwden · May 28, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Frankly, I don't answer questions in game any more because the same question gets asked every 5 minutes by different people. At least on forums the answer is stored somewhere and people could use search. In game, you have to explain everything all over again.

ManadartheHealer · May 28, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Whenever someone asks a question and I know the answer, I whisper it to them. I disagree a little with you. While I was leveling, it seemed as though when I asked a question, someone always helped me (only one person, but that's enough

). And now, in turn, I answer questions.

The problem may be your question is lost in too many other people's trade talk. if that IS the problem, then switch to a quieter (not desolate, but quieter) district...

If nobody still helps, you can ask questions on these forums or PM somebody you know...

Navaros · May 28, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marginal Propensity

I The majority of the players appear to be selfish at first and offer no assistance what so ever. I could easily be wrong about this

no, you are not wrong about this. the majority of players only want to advance their own characters. that's all they care about.

for evidence of this, notice how that 95% of the time or more after you complete a quest or mission, your whole party will leave within 30 seconds of getting back to town. usually with no "thanks for doing a good job, team" or "let's play again sometimes" or "thanks for saving my butt so many times during the mission" ...nope, no nothing. they got what they wanted: the quest/mission completed so their own character can advance; therefore they have no interest in anyone else as of that point

there are a few exceptions to this rule, but not many.

Jwh6913 · May 28, 2005, 03:45 AM // 03:45

I try to contragulate my group, but mostly they're not interested. oddly enough, I've picked up like 25 players on my friend list that I enjoy talking to. some of them even farm with me!

unfortunately, I've yet to group with them again for some bizarre reason..

ManadartheHealer · May 28, 2005, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

no, you are not wrong about this. the majority of players only want to advance their own characters. that's all they care about.

for evidence of this, notice how that 95% of the time or more after you complete a quest or mission, your whole party will leave within 30 seconds of getting back to town. usually with no "thanks for doing a good job, team" or "let's play again sometimes" or "thanks for saving my butt so many times during the mission" ...nope, no nothing. they got what they wanted: the quest/mission completed so their own character can advance; therefore they have no interest in anyone else as of that point

there are a few exceptions to this rule, but not many.

I say congrats, thanks, or "it was good" only when it really IS something extraordinary. if it's just a normal run, the team generally disbands without ANYBODY saying anything...

Tala · May 28, 2005, 04:07 AM // 04:07

For me, it's probaly a case of I honestly don't see the question with all the WTS/WTB stuff going on.

If I do and I know the answer I always whisper it to folks.

Realize that many people turn off their chat because they don't wish to see all the trading...not because they don't want to help.

Eet GnomeSmasher · May 28, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08

Well I've pretty much turn off the channels whenever I'm in town because of spam and the general idiocy of people in GW. There are rare ocassions where I do try to help out. But yes it does get old answering the same questions over and over again. Also some of these people asking questions are downright rude and demanding and ungrateful.

And then there's just selfish people who don't help anyone. So I'm really not surprised not more people go out of their way to help people.

Alesia {Healer Henchman} · May 28, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11

I'm too shy.

Zorax · May 28, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18

The only time I don't answer questions is when the player asking doesn't bother to take the time to ask properly.

Stuff like "how u go 2 tower" I ignore. But other than that, I try to answer if I know the answer.

Axelia · May 28, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

When I am in town I am usually afk. There are times when the chat is scrolling so fast I don't even see anything except the WTS or WTB.

Corwin_Andros · May 28, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

A lot of it is that especially in certain towns, the trade spam has gotten soooo out of control at times that a lot of folks either ignore the chat windows or turn off the local and trade chat.

Personally I try to help people if I know the answer to a question they've asked. I not above giving nice folks a few crafting materials if they need them or sell them cheap if its a rare one.

Good folks are out there.. The best thing to do is cultivate a friends list and find a good guild that suits your playing style. My guild and I socialize on TS more than we actually mission together a lot of the time and we've met same very good people in the past month.

The down side is that since retail release things have taken a turn for the worse from the BWE's. THe large influx of umm.. less than mature and less than pleasant people has put a dingy mask over what was a very friendly and helpful community before. So if you can just look past the Noob comments and mean folk telling you what a loser you are for not knowing what they themselves probably didn't know a few weeks ago.. you should be fine. You can look me or any of my guild up in-game if you like, we generally are nice to strangers..

enyx · May 28, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

The thing I don't get is if it's so bad in guild wars, why isn't it in other games?

I mean... it's the same people that play these games in the end, no? It's not like the whole human race just kinda switches gears when loading up guild wars... ?

I dunno, maybe it's the nature of the game... maybe not. I've had mixed experiences though... I agree, people LOVE to care about themselves... hell, that's why celestial sigils are going for 70k a piece now. I don't consider that fair, but they'll charge it because some munky will eventually buy it for that price. Honestly, if I was one of those l337 super crazy skillzors freaks winning sigil after sigil, I wouldn't hestitate to sometimes give out a few.

Anyway, getting back on topic, when I first started out I had a few people help me out. Infact back when I was a lvl 6, a lvl10 took me through a bunch of post-sear ascalon quests and later hooked me up with 15 hide squares, and at the time I didn't even know how to salvage stuff! I guess I've been pretty fortunate so far, but I totally understand where you guys are coming from with the chornically disbanding party.

I remember making a party once to do a mission & the corrisponding bonus, and two lvl20's joined up willing to 'help' and collect the bonus along with it. When the bonus was done, one disappeared right away. The other just said he had to go and gone he was aswell.

Sigh...

Corwin_Andros · May 28, 2005, 04:33 AM // 04:33

The difference is that unlike all the other MMO's GW has no monthly fee.. That means that every little teenie bopper thug/pimp/1337 wannabe finally has a game that they can convince mommy and daddy to buy for them since it won't cost again.

THe crowds in those other games pay to play and so while not by any means a perfect crowd.. it isn't as rampant with immature hormonal stupidity.

Blae_FeatherArrow · May 28, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

I have found that pmany, many irritating thins go on in chat, such a spamming, panhandling, and selling on non-trade channels. If I see someone ask a question I will do my best to answer tho.

Kirin Death · May 28, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin_Andros

The difference is that unlike all the other MMO's GW has no monthly fee.. That means that every little teenie bopper thug/pimp/1337 wannabe finally has a game that they can convince mommy and daddy to buy for them since it won't cost again.

Too true. No monthly charge has its prices. Usually when I have a question I don't even bother because almost nobody answers. But when somebody else asks a question I answer if I can not only because it helps them out butalso so they don't keep spamming it. There's already enough spam because nobody uses the trade channel...

Eet GnomeSmasher · May 28, 2005, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Also, there are no GMs in game to monitor or curb bad behaviour in the game. And the kids know that and pretty much know that they can act in whatever way they want and get away with it.